XMPP happy hour

I enjoyed especially the demos. I am looking forward for more demos in the
next meeting.

Kind regards,
Dashamir

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Do you mean the quick overview of Gajim's current user interface at:

https://tube.nicfab.eu/w/b2UoAofHm7Vqp9kyUsFq2m?start=43m21s

?

Yes, we plan to show some XMPP mobile clients in the future, for instance.

The xmpp channel on tube.nicfab.eu lists all "XMPP Italian Happy Hour"
episodes:

https://tube.nicfab.eu/c/xmpp

... and the live stream of the current one as well, when it is running.

We try to keep the contextual web chat for the single episodes active
for asking related questions.

For general discussions on XMPP I recommend to join us on our chat group:

xmpp:xmpp-it(a)conference.meet.sabatino.pro?join

rob

Do you mean the quick overview of Gajim's current user interface at:

XMPP Italian happy hour - giugno 2023 - Live - NicFab Tube

Yes. It looks really nice. And it is great that it supports E2E encryption
out of the box.

Compared to Matrix, maybe XMPP has less features, but sending quick and
secure messages is the basic feature, and installing an XMPP server seems
to be much easier than installing a Matrix server (although I haven’t tried
it yet).

Yes, we plan to show some XMPP mobile clients in the future, for instance.

I’d also be interested in comparing XMPP servers, and, if possible, showing
how to install one.

For general discussions on XMPP I recommend to join us on our chat group:

xmpp:xmpp-it(a)conference.meet.sabatino.pro?join

I will try, as soon as I get an account.

Dashamir

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    Do you mean the quick overview of Gajim's current user interface at:

    https://tube.nicfab.eu/w/b2UoAofHm7Vqp9kyUsFq2m?start=43m21s

>>

Yes. It looks really nice. And it is great that it supports E2E
encryption out of the box.

Yes, before v1.8 Gajim supported OMEMO[1] encryption via Plugin, the
implementation is now part of the core.

Compared to Matrix, maybe XMPP has less features, but sending quick and
secure messages is the basic feature, and installing an XMPP server
seems to be much easier than installing a Matrix server (although I
haven’t tried it yet).

I've tried both; installing a Matrix server is not so difficult, but
resource requirements are much higher than an XMPP one, and you have
more choices available and mostly feature equivalent (prosody, ejabberd
being the best imho).

Snikket[2] is a very interesting option, basically it is a lightwheight,
state of art Prosody setup with a basic web administration interface,
installation is eased by a very effective usage of docker containers.
The project is due to Matthew Wild, which is a founder of Prosody and a
prominent personality in the xmpp world.

    Yes, we plan to show some XMPP mobile clients in the future, for
    instance.

I’d also be interested in comparing XMPP servers, and, if possible,
showing how to install one.

I think this would be out of scope for the "Happy Hore" events, a
dedicated event could be
the best option.

    For general discussions on XMPP I recommend to join us on our chat
    group:

    xmpp:xmpp-it(a)conference.meet.sabatino.pro?join

I will try, as soon as I get an account.

As said in the video, this is immediatley feasible on an Android phone
installing the Conversations app (free of charge on F-Droid, or with a
small payment on G. Playstore, which helps to sustain the project).

Conversations developers offer a free account on conversations.im or you
can pick a provider of your choice here:

https://xmpp.org/getting-started/#2-create-an-account

If you prefer a linux desktop client, the best option imho is to install
Gajim 1.8 via flatpak[3]

Dashamir

[1] https://conversations.im/omemo/
     https://xmpp.org/extensions/xep-0384.html
[2] https://snikket.org/
[3] https://dev.gajim.org/gajim/gajim/tree/master/flatpak

Snikket[2] is a very interesting option, basically it is a lightwheight,

[2] https://snikket.org/

state of art Prosody setup with a basic web administration interface,

This seems very nice. I like that they put the focus on self-hosting.

As said in the video, this is immediatley feasible on an Android phone

installing the Conversations app (free of charge on F-Droid, or with a
small payment on G. Playstore, which helps to sustain the project).

The equivalent of Conversations app on iOS might be Monal or Siskin IM.

Dashamir

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    Snikket[2] is a very interesting option, basically it is a
    lightwheight,[2] https://snikket.org/

    state of art Prosody setup with a basic web administration interface,

This seems very nice.

It is! I follow the project from the beginning and set up two instances
which I currently administer (a very low burden, by the way).

I like that they put the focus on self-hosting.

Yes, Snikket (Prosody) runs on very low cost/power hw, even a raspberry
is more than enough.

I currently run one of my instances on a vm inside a Proxmox setup one a
pc-engine APU2[1] (which host other more power hungry vms as well). That
hw runs h24 for many years.

    As said in the video, this is immediatley feasible on an Android phone
    installing the Conversations app (free of charge on F-Droid, or with a
    small payment on G. Playstore, which helps to sustain the project).

The equivalent of Conversations app on iOS might be Monal or Siskin IM.

Yes, Snikket mobile client was based on the best available on the
relevant platforms when the project started, so it is a (friendly) fork of

- Conversations for Android
- Siskin on iOS

The Snikket project provides some infrastructure services as well, in
order to provide better user experience (in the problematic area of push
notifications on iOS, for instance).

rob
[1] "About 6 to 10W of 12V DC power depending on CPU load ..."
https://pcengines.ch/apu2.htm